Wrexham councillors to decide on Hightown flats - POLL

Published date: 30 September 2009 | Published by: Phil Robinson


 

THE FATE of Wrexham’s Hightown flats will be hammered out by councillors on Friday.

Members of the social affairs, health and housing scrutiny committee will decide whether to spend millions on correcting a major structural problems with the 1960s-style properties or simply to send in the bulldozers.

The five blocks of five-storey apartments, housing 113 families in 181 flats and maisonettes, were built in 1970 and have a number of problems.

Extensive surveys have revealed the need for a variety of structural repairs to the pre-cast concrete complex.

Further problems are that electrical installations and fire-stopping arrangements between individual flats do not meet current standards and need to be replaced, and that the water supply needs to be chlorinated.

The internal design of the flats is also said to have created anti-social problems with the enclosed stairwells, deck access walkways and the environmental areas.

The council says it does not have the money to carry out full refurbishment to the flats which is estimated to cost £17.5 million.

If demolition is agreed, the committee will recommend the site is redeveloped in partnership with a registered social landlord to build affordable housing.

The council’s housing department says it has been keen to keep tenants fully informed about the future of the flats.

Extensive consultation has taken place with the tenants currently living in the affected properties, with seven out of 10 of those who took part backing demolition.

The consultation is said to have revealed that tenants are dissatisfied with the condition of their properties, particularly problems of poor heating and damp.

Ron Davies, who chairs the scrutiny committee, said: “During this process it has been important to gain the views of the tenants affected by the proposals, to enable the committee to make a carefully considered recommendation.”

Dilys Torrens, chair of the Hightown Tenants and Residents Association, has lived in the flats for 31 years.

She said: “It is disappointing that the flats might have to be demolished but given the structural problems they have it is feasible that they will have to go.

“But perhaps while some of the younger people want to move out, a number of the older tenants are less likely to want to go because they don’t want all the upheaval.

"If they do have to be knocked down, there is also the loss of community to bear in mind.”

Friday’s meeting takes place at 10.30am in the council chamber at the the Guildhall in Wrexham.

It is open to the public to listen to the debate and the report for recommendation can be accessed via www.wrexham.gov.uk

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  1. Posted by: a cahill at 09:15 on 30 September 2009 Report

    Knock them down......if they have serious structural damage ..... given the Councils record in bringing housing up to the Welsh Housing Standard then it would be far cheaper to demolish them.. start anew with with housing assoc input which is to a far higher standard than the Council

  2. Posted by: Desssy at 10:49 on 30 September 2009 Report

    Knock them down before they fall down & try again!

  3. Posted by: boycs at 13:58 on 30 September 2009 Report

    £17.5 million is far too much, they will remain an eyesore and still suffer from the existing social problems. A new flat/housing complex built to current building regulations would benefit and regenerate the hightown area as a whole

  4. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 15:00 on 30 September 2009 Report

    Drop the lot, sell the site off and get some money in the kitty.

  5. Posted by: yachydda at 15:28 on 30 September 2009 Report

    The flats at hightown have had a structural problem for some years, why has it taken so long to tell the public about them? Knock them down and rebuild, but dont sell the land off first it will only go to greedy housebuilders who will make more profit than the council.

  6. Posted by: Marshman at 16:34 on 30 September 2009 Report

    Will anybody miss such an ugly building?

  7. Posted by: a cahill at 21:07 on 30 September 2009 Report

    This presents a unique opportunity for community involvement.... e.g. using the demolition and rebuilding to train out of work youth and give them the skills for future employment.. it would take guts from the Council to impose contractual obligations on the company that wins the contract to provide training

  8. Posted by: a cahill at 21:14 on 30 September 2009 Report

    Another aspect would be to include Penalties Clauses in the contract..... its done in London and contractors know that any shoddy work or over run on time would cost them in the long run.. but I may as well dream on given the Councils past failures and readiness to bow to the business community

  9. Posted by: andyf at 01:08 on 01 October 2009 Report

    It's ok to say drop em, demolish them and they are an eyesore and who would miss them, do you live in the flats? dont get me wrong the flats are a mess, i was brought up hanging around the flats and park and they have always been the same, i seen about getting the community involved i think that is an excellent idea especially if local jobs for local people just hope the council build the same number of homes that are already at Hightown flats.....??

  10. Posted by: a cahill at 11:13 on 01 October 2009 Report

    Andyf... what i don't get is that the Council offer these flats to people knowing full well that anybody moving into them is immediately tagged as as coming from a place that has problems of all sorts and the residents take the flak regardless of whether they are law abiding dececent people

  11. Posted by: a cahill at 11:20 on 01 October 2009 Report

    The reason for area's such as Caia having so many residents deemed to have or be a problem is because allocations staff have the power to remove them from the top of the waiting list in any area regardless of family or local connection, until such time as a property is available in this area

  12. Posted by: a cahill at 11:31 on 01 October 2009 Report

    The result is that the Caia area takes 40% of problem individuals or families with the ghettoising of an area, so what is needed is a total rethink of their strategy and a more community based initiative in decision making,instead of the bog standard, clique ridden party political excuse for community involvement that presently exists

  13. Posted by: tommy at 18:43 on 02 October 2009 Report

    The flats are not structurally unsound.thats just bo**ocks.This is just another attempt by the council to hand over the development of social housing over to the housing associations and consequently the private sector.Tenants have been beguiled by both the council and the Hightown Tenants and Residents Association .This is just another part in the process of privatising the housing stock

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